Clues people have sent in for this page:
patrick: 12.05.02
clue: sr/cl...
SR = Study and Research
CL = Collaborative Learning
It's education lingo. Look here for the clues that make me believe this:
http://www.emcp.com/electronic_resource_centers/resourcefile.php?ID=1447
Mikey: 12.06.02
clue: The stars around the whole add number 50 wide by 80 high. This means that the ad is 4000 stars squared, but more
interesting: the perimeter has exactly 256 (2^8) stars.
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The Sterling function/approximation are equations for trying to find out what large factoriaL numbers are.
Sterling approximation:
n! = (n/e)^n * sqrt(2*pi*n)
This has a very small amount of error.
Sterling function:
(n/e)^n * sqrt(2*pi*n) < n! < (n/e)^(n + 1/(12*n)) * sqrt(2*pi*n)
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If you sum the numbers along each ring, 108 is the sum you get for all 9 rings.
There are 9 rings around the sphere, much like there are 9 planets (counting Pluto) in orbit around the sun.
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The Jonathan Swift quote is actually, "He was a bold man that first eat an oyster." (According to Bartlett's quotations.) It
comes from Polite Conversation, Dialogue ii. (I would have verified this, but I can't find a copy anywhere.)
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The integer least squares and nearest lattice vector problem have a lot to do with how the GPS works. The nearest lattice vector
problem is:
Minimize (x-x0)^T * A(x - x0) for any x in Z^n
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I don't see why this would be related, but I have found a logarithmic "barrier function" which is related to electrical engineering
in someway:
C = {x|fi(x) < 0, i = 1,...,m} != 0
o(x) =
{for x in C: - summation from 1 to m of log(-fi(x))
{otherwise : +inf
There is also a smooth barrier function, which looks like it was replaced in the world of engineering by the log function (sorry,
don't know too much about EE).
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One website's definition of interest rate differential: "The yield spread between two otherwise comparable debt instruments
denominated in different currencies."
Bob - 12.06.02
Bob
clue: Lots of GPS stuff here. The main graphic could be taken as a depiction of the positions of GPS satellites, although I don't
think it's accurate. Note that 26 positions are indicated. The GPS system requires 24 satellites, but, as nearly as I can tell,
there are currently 26 "healthy" GPS satellites. See here:
http://www.ima.umn.edu/talks/workshops/8-16-18.2000/van-dierendonck/GPSORBITS.PDF
A good GPS overview here:
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/pubs/trans/9902/87proc01-scanning.html
GPS satellites all seem to be at 55 degree inclination, 20,200 km above the earth's surface.
From:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/spacewarn/spx559.html
dated May 31, 2000:
Navstar 51 (USA 150) is the latest addition to the American GPS fleet of navigation satellites, and was launched by a Delta 2
rocket from Cape Canaveral at 01:48 UT. The 24-spacecraft fleet was completed in 1994, but Navstar 51 will replace a failing
member. GPS navigational location has until recently been at 100 meter accuracy for civilian use signals, and at 20 meter accuracy
for military use signals. As of 1 May 2000, the DoD has voided the intentional degradation of the accuracy for civilian use, and
made it on a par with the military accuracy. But it retains the prerogative to degrade the accuracy at selected locations when
necessary. Also known as PRN20 (in GPS parlance), it replaces the failing PRN14 in Slot E-1. An update of the GPS fleet has been
provided by Richard B. Langley, and is appended in section C-2. Initial orbital parameters of Navstar 51 were period 712 min,
altitude 20,200 km, and inclination 55 deg.
The "phase = integer + fraction" also appears to relate to GPS.
From:
http://www.magellan.com.au/support/glossary/
carrier phase:
the fraction of a cycle, often expressed in degrees, where 360 degrees equals a complete cycle. Carrier phase can also mean the
number of complete cycles plus a fractional cycle. In a survey-grade GPS receiver, the receiver can lock on to a satellite and,
keeping track of the number of whole cycles of the carrier, creates a cumulative phase of the signal which is often referred to as
integrated Doppler.
13: The Kirbach paper deals with the chemical properties of the heavy element Hassium (z=108) and can be viewed here:
http://sheiks.lbl.gov/nsd2001/hassiumchem.pdf
Major Mode: Story of Jesus casting out demons; told three times in the Bible. I can't find it phrased exactly as it is in the ad
(closest is Luke 8:31: "And they begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.")
The three versions are presented here:
http://www.bible-history.com/Chart_Jesus_Chronology/CHART_JESUS_CHRONOLOGYMat_82833_Mk_5121_Lk_82640.htm
7Q5 is a Dead Sea Scroll fragment. The statement following the citation says that the fragment is from Mark 6:52-53, as is most
commonly held, and not from Zechariah, as has been argued by the Vittoria Spottorno. An extensive discussion of the controversy is
available here:
http://members.aol.com/egweimi/7q5.htm
Swift quote: more commonly given as: ""He was a bold man that first ate an Oyster"
14. The French phrase shows up on pages about the joy of the game "Go."
11/28/1817: Beethoven's "Fugue in D for string quintet" is said to have been completed on this date.
The last bit of German refers to Studien zur Geschichte des griechischen Apokalypse Textes. 3 vols. Munich, 1955-56, a three volume
study of the Apocalypse of John (Revelation).
Rich: 12.06.02
2. It appears that the numbered phrases are to be mapped on the corresponding positions on the diagram. Seems pretty obvious, could
be misdirection.
3. Levels, levels, levels - where are the level refrences in this text?!! I only see one *** mark following the "minor mode"
phrase. Is this all "level III" text?!!
4. The way the nodes on the diagram are numbered and connected, it doesn't appear that there is an obvious path/order to take
things in.
5. Letters around the perimiter of the diagram. These don't obviously seem intended to generate words by following the path around.
Note that the letters are only around the edge of a (2D) circle, while the diagram represents a (3D) sphere. Possibly there ARE
other levels hidden in this text?
6. I just noticed that in the text, some of the index numbers are prefixed with a single star. Why are these picked out? (Maybe I
did find the level I text, after all...)
Carson: 12.08.02
clue: Major Mode: Story of Jesus casting out demons; told three times in the Bible. I can't find it phrased exactly as it is
in the ad (closest is Luke 8:31: "And they begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.")
in that reference, the demons that beg not to be sent into the abyss are instead sent to a nearby herd of pigs.
This, of course, might be way off, or relate to the group of people 'the Freaks' refer to as 'the Pigs.'
anonymous - 12.09.2002
ICXC NIKA = "Jesus Christ Conquers"
dave: 12.09.2002
The 3x3 matrix of numbers on the front and back faces of the sphere are magic squares.
2 7 6
9 5 1
4 3 8
magic number 15
19 24 23
26 22 18
21 20 25
magic number 66
patrick: 12.10.2002
clue: reference point 1:
telomere = "the physical ends of linear eukaryotic chromosomes. They are specialized nucleoprotein complexes that have
important functions, primarily in the protection, replication, and stabilization of the chromosome ends. In most organisms
studied, telomeres contain lengthy stretches of tandemly repeated simple DNA sequences composed of a G- rich strand and a
C-rich strand (called terminal repeats). These terminal repeats are highly conserved; in fact all vertebrates appear to have
the same simple sequence repeat in telomeres: (TTAGGG)n. Often sequences adjacent to the telomeric repeats are highly
polymorphic, are rich in DNA repetitive elements (termed subtelomeric repeats), and in some cases, genes have been found in
the proterminal regions of chromosomes."
(from http://www.genlink.wustl.edu/teldb/tel.html)
Telomeres are important in cancer research and cellular aging research. Some sources even relate it to a protein called
sr-cl, or SrCl2. Telomere attrition would be related to the aging process as cells replicate, then dispose of their
telomeres. (contact your biologist friends for help with this one).
Halle, Basiliekstraat 116 is an address in Halle, Belgium. No idea what's there except that there seem to be lots of retail
businesses with nearby addresses.
And that's all I have time for right now.
parick: 12.10.02
reference point 13:
z=108, hassium, a newly researched heavy element. Ressearch was conducted by Nitsche, Kirbach, et al.
http://www.lbl.gov/Publications/LDRD/2001/NSD.htm
I think this has something to do with near-artificial-intelligence. I'm still waiting on the word from a friend who may
know about combinatorics in math, but the computational idea matches with earlier hints at Schrodinger vs. Euclid in looking
at spatial/kinematic relationships in physics (this time, as it relates to a lattice computer). Here's a website:
link
re: Mikey's comments
Perhaps we shouldn't be looking at the border stars since they were probably created by the adw, not the advertiser. Bryan,
any comment?
hance: as far as I know they bring in the full ad. All we end up putting on top is that 'paid announcement' notice.
Rich: 12.10.02
SRCL
SRCL is the NASDAQ symbol for the company Stericycle (http://biz.yahoo.com/p/s/srcl.html)
Which, you will note, is in the medical industry (hmmm, a link?). Well, medical waste management (hmmm, maybe not)
508 12/11/02
Part of the German:
"Studien zur Geschichte des griechischen Apokalypse-Textes"
means
"Studies for the history of the Greek Apokalypse text".
The Greek below it is "anastaseos nekron", meaning "rise/risen from the dead".
near a terminal 12/11/02
Not much time today but I think the pimp gave us a lead when he affirmed "Children's Hospital." I love the
simple-minded approach and hospitals are medical. Following that lead if you punch in "Cdkn2a/Rb1" to google you come up
with both telomere and "tumor suppressor." Sometimes it has the British spelling (tumour) so it must be widely known
throughout the English speaking world but only in medical circles.
patrick: 12/12/02
clue: Reference point 12:
Here's what Dr. Glenn, mathmatical master, had to say:
"it turns out that finding the point closest to (x_1,x_2,...,x_n) having all integer values is a problem which is
computationally equivalent to the problem of finding the original least squares problem. that means that if a person can
solve one of the problems, then a person can covert that solution to another which solves the other problem, and can do the
conversion very quickly. looks like an interesting puzzle. maybe the individual quotations and such refer to books or
courses or topics or degrees at ua, and when put together make up some sentences ...?
Rich: 12.16.02
14
"A la fois simple et subtil, amusant et passionnant, le jeu de"
== "With the time simple and subtle, amusing and enthralling, play of"
Crud, here we go again with the Go. From an introduction to the game of Go, possibly a standard quote from a known Go
reference?
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%22a+la+fois+simple+et+subtil+amusant+et+passionnant%2C+le+jeu+de%22
5
"Resonent in laudibus" is a Bach Chorale lauding the birth of Jesus Christ.
http://www.sfbach.org/repertoire/resonent.html
3
Papyrus 67 is a part of a second century manuscript of the gospel of Matthew discovered in Egypt.
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Bible/Text/Mss/P64.html
Papyrus 67 possibly plays a role in controversy between the King James translation versus "modern" translations.
http://www.kjvonly.org/other/jdprice_magdalen.htm
anonymous - 12.28.02
ALL BUT THE 1ST ADDS SEEMTO POINT TO S. AFRICA APARTHEID ROOTED GROUP AND THEIR COMMERCE WITHIN THE USA. ON MAY 1 1986 CLUE
1 THE WORD MISTAH IS A CRUDE IMITATION OF A BLACK MAN SAYING 'MISTER' AND THE APARTHEID TOOK HOLD FROM THE END OF APRIL60
AND S.A. BROKE FROM THE COMMON WEALTH IN MAY 61. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THESE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO KEEP THERE INTERESTS
A SECRET EVEN IN THIS DAY AND AGE ESSPECIALLY IF IT INVOLVES ANY TRADE.
Zuidera - 01.04.03
"Die mens wik, maar God beskik."
"Man proposes, God disposes"
"interest rate parity forces the forward rate of sterling below the spot by exactly"
Economics referring to the determining of exchange rates between two countries based on interest rates (return on
investment) and in this case inflation as well (decreasing value of investment in the country experiencing inflation).
So if Sterling has a higher inflation rate than the other country and the interest rates become equal then that makes
country B more attractive than Sterling and the future value of Sterling (forward rate) begins to decline, hence becoming
lower than the spot (current) rate.
cynic2 - 01.19.03
The information gets put here because I think it would be buried back where I found it on August 28, 1991. The stuff
about "the secret lodge" interested me but I found it very difficult to navigate "mafco" because it is in German or mostly
in German. The point about Florence on 8/28/91 and the number 453 is apparently correct because if you put "Osvaldo Marras"
and right next to the name 453, then GOOGLE pulls up a number of references. Most of them are in Italian but the big point
about "Osvaldo Marras" being #453 and living in Florence is found in each of the references. What that means, I'm not sure.
Jessica Augustsson - 01.22.03
clue: Regarding Dr. Osvaldo Marras and Florence: The pages in Italian give a list of the members of the Freemasons in Italy.
Probably the most notorious Freemason lodge is the P2 lodge in Italy. This group has been implicated in everything from bribery to
assassinations. P2 is directly connected to the Vatican, the Knights of Malta, and to the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. The P2
lodge has supposedly succeeded in infiltrating the Vatican and scored a coup of tremendous significance: the Pope, John Paul II,
has lifted the ban against Freemasonry. It is claimed that many high-level members of the Vatican are now Freemasons.
http://www.mafco.ch is a website for people with manic-depressive/bi-polar problems. I'm not quite sure I see the connection with
members of the Freemasons. Any hints? Which specific page of mafco did you see Marras's name on?
cynic2 - 01.19.03
The information gets put here because I think it would be buried back where I found it on August 28, 1991. The stuff about
"the secret lodge" interested me but I found it very difficult to navigate "mafco" because it is in German or mostly in German.
The point about Florence on 8/28/91 and the number 453 is apparently correct because if you put "Osvaldo Marras" and right next to
the name 453, then GOOGLE pulls up a number of references. Most of them are in Italian but the big point about "Osvaldo Marras"
being #453 and living in Florence is found in each of the references. What that means, I'm not sure.
Wanderer - 01.20.03
I am sorry this doesn't pertain exactly to this page, but I could not figure out any other way to contact you. I just
thought of something you might want to consider. If the people who are running this say that you need all of the articles to truly
understand, then why don't you try asking them for the articles. I know you can't contact them directly, but they seem to be
paying attention to this site, so maybe it would be possible for them to get the message. Just an idea. Good luck with your
quest.
Jessica Augustsson - 01.22.03
Regarding Dr. Osvaldo Marras and Florence: The pages in Italian give a list of the members of the Freemasons in Italy.
Probably the most notorious Freemason lodge is the P2 lodge in Italy. This group has been implicated in everything from bribery to
assassinations. P2 is directly connected to the Vatican, the Knights of Malta, and to the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. The P2
lodge has supposedly succeeded in infiltrating the Vatican and scored a coup of tremendous significance: the Pope, John Paul II,
has lifted the ban against Freemasonry. It is claimed that many high-level members of the Vatican are now Freemasons.
www.mafco.ch is a website for people with manic-depressive/bi-polar problems. I'm not quite sure I see the connection with
members of the Freemasons. Any hints? Which specific page of mafco did you see Marras's name on?
cynic2 - 01.26.03
I'm not the one to answer Jessica's question because it was 'xoxox' or whatever that send he found the secret lodge on
"mafco". I can't find it on "mafco" either but if you type in "mafco" and "marras" on Google you get this reference,
"www.wafco.ch/p2/pt2_k-m.htm" and it is listed as "49k". I don't get anything when I do that manually but apparently the reference
is still in the Google cache. Maybe the link is dead now but wasn't when "xoxox" did their search.
Jessica Augustsson - 01.29.03
Professor Osvaldo Marras seems to be a member of the Pharmacology department at the University of Urbino. More specifically
in the Institute of the Science of Toxicology, Hygiene, and (something). You can see his name at the bottom of this page:
http://www.uniurb.it/farmacia/istituti.htm
Repentant - 01.30.03
Slight follow-up to Rich's post; the only single-starred numbers are those around the 2D perimiter of the globe.
cynicw - 02.03.2003
clue: This came to mind while reading through other people's comments. Would the reference to GPS have to be a set number? The
one who signs "Bob" thought maybe they had the wrong number but I wonder if they aren't indicating a variety of numbers and that
would give you a variety of dates. GPS at different dates had different numbers of sattelites although I haven't done the hard
work of correlating a given number of sattelites to a certain segment of time. My point is that this mystery is considerably older
than the GPS system so you could use different combinations of numbers on the globe in the announcement and that would refer to a
different time frame for each combination. You could then look at the webmaster's list of dates and that would lead to specific
announcements. They are obviously fascinated by combinatorics and that would be one way to communicate a complex message with just
one picture like we see above.
Godel: 02.13.02
Pattern on the Sphere
If you follow any of the great circles on the sphere, you will traverse a cycle of numbers. The sequence of differences is
symmetric.
For example, take the equator which has the pattern:
1-5-9-15-26-22-18-12 (and back to 1 again)
Examining differences:
5-1 = 4
9-5 = 4
15-9 = 6
26-15 = 11
22-26 = -4
18-22 = -4
12-18 = -6
1-12 = -11
So the differences have the pattern:
4-4-6-11-(-4)-(-4)-(-6)-(-11)
It is obvious that the sum of these differences in 0.
Also, (something I just noticed), if you follow any closed path, the sum of the differences is always zero.
Example:
path:2-7-10
sum of differences:
(7-2)+(10-7)+(2-10) = 0
these are very trivial results, but maybe someone can use them
secondly, concerning #6, the quotation about interest rate etc.
I got a single hit on google searching the phrase: "interest rate parity forces"
surprisingly enough, the document found contained the phrase:
"interest rate parity forces the forward rates to contain a large discount due to the high interest rates in Latin America..."
this does not directly match the clue, but it's pretty damn close.
the document is apparently a compilation of lecture notes for a course
here it is (although I question its relevance)
http://www.cwu.edu/~bagamery/im/ch08.doc
02.13.03
name: near a terminal
clue: "Godel" (the clue I just read was from somebody who signed "Godel") is probably on to something but I don't have the
ability to pursue it. Look at 5/1/2002 and there is a direct reference to zeros and how they are the important part of
Riemann's function. I remember somewhere in here that one of you smart people had found that Riemann's function encodes all human knowledge. I
don't know how that works but if the freaks are even half way into it then these zeros on the globe in the ad would send
specific portions of knowledge. I'd call that a very clear message.
BTW, the clue submission form for the latest delivery to the webmaster doesn't work. I was going to send in my street address
so the freaks could send the next gold to me.
godel: 02.13.03
clue: Did anyone notice that the number of GPS satellites (26), is also the number of letters in the English alphabet.
near a terminal - 02.19.03
clue: Can you get somebody who actually remembers his Latin to translate the bit from Tacitus? I'm sitting here staring
at it and I think it means something like "so then he chose a darker way." What comes to mind is that half the globe is dark
at any given moment. One of your experts will chime in that the exact percentages vary and so on but a simple point is that the
numbers appear to completely encircle the globe in the picture. I wonder if the bit about darkness doesn't mean something
done at night on a certain day and probably at a certain hour.
dormer: 02.25.03
clue: try this one and see what you think. it really is a conspiracy and they do most of their communicating through some
other medium but use these to troll the web for brains. if they like somebody they make contact and get the cream of the
cream.
stinkbug - 03.07.03
clue: References to hirelings could also refer to a measurement of time and this fits with their fascination with the Bible.
Look at Isaiah chapters 16 and 21. Anybody that looks at these can see that time is an obsession with them but I don't think
this connection with time has been made before.
near a terminal: 03.12.03
name: near a terminal
clue: I sent in a clue a while ago about San Francisco but nobody has commented on it and I just scrolled back through these
and realized why. I gave the wrong date on the San Francisco ferry routes. When you look at recent stuff you need to go to
7/29/00 which is titled "Lots of mail." Once you hit that it shows ~7/15/00 and shows a number of letters that the webmaster
received. The one I misidentified is letter 7. My guess is that it must be important because the quotation with it later appears as a
leitmotiv. Several of the smart contributors have said that these often anticipate each other. What they said in the past
comes up again and that kind of thing. Another thing about ferries is that they are for short trips in the bay area you can't
go on one for days at a time. That seems to fit with their interest in "right now, what's happening now." It certainly fits
with the financial district which is right behind the ferry lines. The financial district came up again in the most recent 5/1
ad.
bob - 03.18.03
Just sitting here on the night Bush announced we're going into Iraq again, unless Saddam agrees to leave. GPS plays a
crucial role in modern warfare.
Jessica - 03.24.03
name: Jessica Augustsson
clue: The Latin quote: It's from Tacitus's "Annales" which is a history of Rome from AD 14-66. This quote can actually be
translated to something which is closer to "He chose the stealthier way." Tacitus is writing about Sejanus, who was friends with
the emperor Tiberius. Sejanus wanted to climb the social ladder, but there were many members of the royal family (particularly
males, they being the ones who inherit thrones) who stood in the way of this. This is where the quote here comes in: "et quia vi
tot simul corripere intutum dolus intervalla scelerum poscebat. placuit tamen occultior via et a Druso incipere, in quem recenti
ira ferebatur". Translation: "As it would be unsafe to sweep off such a number at once by violence, while craft would necessitate
successive intervals in crime, he chose, on the whole, the stealthier way and to begin with Drusus, against whom he had the
stimulus of a recent resentment." Drusus, the son of Tiberius, had, in a casual dispute, raised his fist at Sejanus, and, when he
defended himself, had hit him in the face. Sejanus thought his easiest revenge was
to turn his attention to Livia, Drusus's wife. He seduced her, and assured that a woman who parted with her virtue will hesitate at
nothing, he lured her on to thoughts of marriage, of a share in sovereignty, and of her husband's destruction. So Sejanus's
stealthier way was to try to be rid of people one by one, quietly, so that he could one day rule Rome.
"Loci citati vel allegati" - This appears to be an appendix from the Greek New Testament by Barbara and Kurt Aland. More about it
can be seen here: amazon.com
Jessica - 03.25.03
clue: The leitmotiv comes, as stated, from the Emily Dickinson poem "Tell all the Truth but Tell it Slant":
Tell all the Truth but tell it slant-
Success in Circuit lies
Too bright for our infirm Delight
The Truth's superb surprise
As Lightening to the Children eased
With explanation kind
The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or ever man be blind -
A couple of interesting analyses:
"The gist of the poem is clearly a recommendation that truth be stated obliquely, lest sudden or direct exposure to it damage
us...According to the insinuations of the lightning image, then, we can never see or grasp the truth's illumination. Unless the
truth dazzle gradually, at best a miraculous event, we are all blind. We are blind, that is to say. If we play Ben Franklin,
seeking truth in a thunderstorm, we blind ourselves at the moment of success. If we sensibly eschew such folly, then we are blind
in another, more traditional sense. Not having seen the light, we wander in error and falsehood." --The Dickinson Sublime
"the poem seems to me to have a good deal of religious significance that such a statement inclines altogether to flout:
And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightening and thick clouds upon the mount. . .
And the Lord said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the Lord to gaze, and many of them perish.
(Exodus 19:16-21)
The blinding effect of direct access to the Godhead, which is to say the Truth (except in the case of selected few, and Moses one
of them), has been a commonplace of religious poetry from long before Emily Dickinson to our own century. And there is what might
be called a New Testament version of the same idea. Jesus has just told his followers the parable of the sower and the seed:
And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve
asked of him the parable.
And he said unto them, Unto you is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto theem that are without, all these
things are done in parables. (Mark 4: 9-11)
Christ himself has been seen as that human manifestation of the Godhead which allows all men to look upon that Truth which would
otherwise be blinding." --The Riddles of Emily Dickinson
I found this Dickinson poem to be more interesting than many of her works, since she was ruined for me long ago when I learned that
you could sing nearly every one of her poems to "The Yellow Rose of Texas." Oh, well.
Jessica Augustsson: 03.27.03
name: Jessica Augustsson
clue: More on the P2 Lodge (MayDay page from August 1991) from "Tales from the Grassy Knoll": P2 stands for Propaganda Due, a
MASONIC lodge that flourished in post-war Italy. It was originally chartered by the Swiss GRAND LODGE ALPINA (supposedly the
culling ground for the supremely powerful PRIORY OF SION, which on the other hand might be a Dadaist hoax). P2 was led by double
agent extraordinaire Licio GELLI (also known as "the Puppet Master"). GELLI started as a humble fascist in Franco's Blackshirt
Battalion during the Spanish Civil War, went on to the rank of oberleutnant in the SS and was named as liaison officer from
MUSSOLINI to the elite SS Herman Goring Division. It was at this time that he became a double agent for the British and Italian
secret services (he would later also go on to work for the KGB). After the war he seemed to be the obvious choice to work with the
CIA to smuggle NAZIS out of Germany (Operation PAPERCLIP) via VATICAN-controlled diplomatic channels known as "the rat-lines." He
is personally credited with getting Klaus Barbie "the Butcher of Lyons" reestablished in Argentina. He was also the Italian
coordinator of OPERATION GLADIO, a scheme thought up by Allen DULLES of the CIA to seed Europe with arms caches and terrorist cells
in the advent of a Communist invasion.
GELLI was more than up to this task. With his CIA money from the GLADIO/PAPERCLIP projects he built up an impressive dossier of
information about Italy's leading personalities and blackmailed them into joining his lodge. At its height (the mid '70s) P2
boasted over 2400 members including the heads of all three Italian secret services, several cabinet members, politicians of every
ilk, newspaper editors, the financial police, bank presidents, bishops, and a late Pope (despite the anti-Masonic posturing of the
church). P2 has been described as a virtual "shadow-government" that was ready to take the reins if those pesky Communists ever got
elected. Yes, GELLI was on top of his game; in fact, he was a guest of honor at Ronald Reagan's 1981 inauguration. But like those
heroes of yore, hubris bespoke a very hard fall^Å
The devil, of course, is in the details, and like a chain, a conspiracy is only as strong as its weakest link. The weak link in
this case was a bank president named Roberto CALVI. CALVI was the president of Banco AMBROSIANO^ÅOk, deep breath^ÅBanco AMBROSIANO
was what was known as a "Catholic Bank," which means that it was adjunct of the VATICAN bank. "Vatican?" you say, "Bank?" "I
thought there was a prohibition on the lending of money at interest in the BIBLE!" Well, there is, but the sin of usury has not
stopped the Vatican and its affiliates from becoming some of the leading financial powers in the world (it is rumored that the
JESUITS own a 51% share of Bank of America). You see back in the halcyon early days of church/fascist state cooperation, the
Vatican and MUSSOLINI made a deal known as the LATERNAN treaty that granted the Vatican tax exemption on all financial transactions
(The VATICAN also made a deal with the NAZIS to be included in the Kirchensteuer, or "church-tax", an income tax that in 1943 alone
netted the Vatican over 100 million dollars). Now tax exemption makes a bank a good place to launder, er^Ådeposit, money, and the
coffers of the Vatican were soon overflowing...
In the waning days of WWII when it seemed obvious that playing both sides for profit just wasn't, er^Åprofitable any more, the US
Military/Industrial complex decided to get rid of those pesky Fascists once and for all. In Italy it was decided to get at
MUSSOLINI by invading Sicily. In order to pull this off successfully the US needed an "in." That, of course would be the MAFIA. So
US Intelligence contacted "Lucky" Luciano and his Genovese family, who put them in touch with the Inzerillo family of Sicily
(cousins to the Gambinos). A little of this. A little of that, and voila, the invasion was a success! After the invasion, one of
the go-betweens among the Mafia and the US Army was a man named Michel Sidona. Sidona quickly worked his way up in Italian banking
circles and with his American contacts in the Chicago area arranged for a US parish priest named Paul Marcinkus to be appointed
head of the Vatican Bank.
Now Sidona also happened to be in Licio GELLI's P2 lodge and was buddies with then Bishop Montini (Later Pope Paul VI), who was in
charge of the Vatican side of the "rat-lines" running NAZIS out of the country. Sidona had a protégé named Roberto Calvi who became
head of Banco Ambrosiano (BA), the largest "Catholic" bank and later the largest private bank in Italy. Over the course of the 60's
Sidona, Marcinkus, and Calvi diversified the Vatican's portfolio extensively, acquiring banks in the US and worldwide, shares in US
Steel companies, IBM, and the Watergate Hotel (really). In the meantime Sidona was also inventing dummy off-shore corporations to
launder drug money for his Mafia buddies.
But, alas, all good things come to an end and the long downhill slide began... Apparently in 1972 Pope Paul VI had tired of the
financial shenanigans and so P2 had to act: accordingly, they drugged the Pope for the next six years and appointed Marcinkus to be
the bodyguard of a Papal body-double to run things. In 1974 Sidona's pet American bank, Franklin National, collapsed because of bad
loans and the Vatican was out to the tune of 240 Million. Sidona then skipped town (on a tip from GELLI) but was miffed because his
buddy Calvi, whom he brought up in the world, didn't use the financial weight of BA to bail him out. A lengthy investigation into
Sidona's dealings is launched and he is held in Switzerland pending extradition. Then in 1978 the Pope died, and his successor
stepped into the fray^Åbriefly. John Paul I is a reformer, he starts discussions about birth control, ordaining women, honest
financial dealings^Åthe works. Number one on his list is firing EVERYONE involved with P2. Exactly thirty-three (the number of the
highest MASONIC degree) days later he's dead. 1979 is big year for P2 death: both the chief investigator of the BA imbroglio and an
investigative reporter researching P2 are found murdered along with Giorgio Ambrosioli who was a witness against Sidona (in 1980
Sidona was given 25 to life for collusion in his murder).
In 1981 the Vatican desperately tries to shore up BA's hemorrhaging finances (with lines of credit from the KNIGHTS OF MALTA) but
to no avail, and Calvi is arraigned for fraudulent business practices. In January of 1982 while out on bail, Calvi's body is
discovered hanging underneath Blackfriar's bridge in London, hands tied behind his back and 12 pounds of brick in his pocket (this
is actually deemed a suicide by authorities). In 1986 Michele Sidona died from a poisoned cup of coffee in prison. Archbishop
Marcinkus was removed from his duties at the Vatican bank and "retired" in Illinois. And Gelli? He escaped from an escape-proof
Swiss jail and disappeared into the wilds of Argentina; he died recently having never served time for his crimes.
More about Beethoven, the date 11/28/1817, 23 bars, and B minor:
In December of 1999, Sotheby's auction house in London auctioned off a manuscript of a piece of music (Allegretto in B minor for
string quartet) composed by Beethoven and dated November 28, 1817. The composition had never been published before.
The piece, a short movement of 23 bars, was discovered among the papers of the Molesworth St Aubyn family in Cornwall.
"When I saw it, I knew it was Beethoven's hand but I couldn't put it in the context of Beethoven's work," said Stephen Roe, head of
books and manuscripts at Sotheby's auction house.
The manuscript was acquired by the Bibliotheca Bodmeriana, who bid the most money ever paid for a single sheet of a Ludwig van
Beethoven manuscript: £166,500.
Here is the Sotheby's press release for the manuscript: http://www.shareholder.com/bid/news/19991007-11261.cfm
And here is the BBC online news site where you can hear the first recorded performance of the piece:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/467734.stm
repubgirl: 04.02.03
clue: From Near A Terminal's latest post:
>What they said in the past
>comes up again and that kind
>of thing.
Ah yes...what is past is prologue.
Juls 04.12.03
I think there are 4 levels in the text, note the numbering: 10,11,12,13,17,16,15,14, marked with a star;
2,6,9,1,4,8,19,24,23 are in bold text, no star; 3,7, in plain text; 5 is italicised. There is another way to extract a series of 4
out of the text, this involves examining the numbers as they are on the globe. The starred numbers are all around the perimeter -
these are separate, the remainder of the numbers that appear in the text are arranged in groups of three on 4 separate lines, also
note that this leaves a group of numbers on the globe which are not referenced in the text, at least not in the way the others are.
I hope this has made sense, I have other ideas with this that I'm working on.
Juls the Heathen ;-) : 04.14.2003
I noticed the occasional comment on how the face seems to change - it does - sometimes it has 5 hairs and sometimes
it has 6 hairs. Perhaps this is of relevance: Matthew 10:24-33.
"A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master; it is enough for a disciple to be like
his teacher, and the servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebul, how much
more will they malign those of his household.
So have no fear of them, for nothing is covered that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. What
I tell you in the dark, utter in the light; and what you hear whispered proclaim upon the housetops. And do not
fear those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul; rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? And not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father's will. But
even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not, therefore, you are of more value than many sparrows. So
everyone who acknowledges me before men, I will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven; but whoever denies
me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven."
Waes Hal!
Juls: 04.19.03
General clue: Since the Kabbalah has been mentioned in communications, this may be of some use to folk, it
seems to be a reasonable introduction to Kabbalah :
http://www.psyche.com/psyche/psyche.html
Possibly worth pondering is the Cube of Space, here's an intro:
http://www.psyche.com/psyche/cube/cube_intro.html
I've also wondered about alchemy, something I've not looked at much myself in the past. This looks like a pretty
good site if anyone else wishes to consider it:
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/home.html
General - a useful links page courtesy of the Golden Dawn:
http://www.golden-dawn.org/links_wmt.html
General: Link to a nice piccie of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life
http://digital-brilliance.com/kab/kircher.gif
note. there are various ways of assigning the letters to the paths, though this is the most favoured
by modern occultists
Basic FAQ on Kabbalah can be found here:
http://digital-brilliance.com/kab/faq.htm
Kabbalah :
http://digital-brilliance.com/kab/index.htm
Some basic stuff on sacred geometry (more links at bottom of page):
http://home.dmv.com/~vincent/
Phonetic symbolism etc :
http://www.conknet.com/~mmagnus/
beacon: 04.27.2003
RE Jessicas comments on P2 Masonic Lodge:
In the last few months Spring 2003 Italian courts have either made a judgement on the Calvi (suicide/murder) or convened to decide
if it was suicide. I read about it over the last few weeks I am unclear and can check it up. I think it is because of money awarded
by/claimed against insurance companies if it is not deemed suicide. But he was found in London and as far as I know the court is
an Italian court.
If reference is to this case it strikes me as surprising that anyone was aware of it re opening two months before it did unless
thay had knowledge of the Italian court calendar. I assume it works like other places and it is only known at most a few months in
advance what cases are listed for the court. I may be wrong about the listings or it may be that the finalisation of this case is
either co-incidence or was wlee known in Italy in December.
Correction in Oct 2002 new evidence emerged:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,811240,00.html
But it was only Feb 2003 the verdict was known
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=24&art_id=vn20030219052219350C687686&set_id=1
then again one could argue that facts were known prior in October 2002 which casts doubt on my "occult knowledge" theory
http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/vat13.htm
Joe23: 09.13.2003
The greek letters translate to:EX ANASTASEOS NEKRON,which means "by a ressurection of the dead".
Its taken from Romans 1:4 in the bible.
sjwk 10.19.2004
The major/minor mode things: From this page:
In the German theory by or derived from Hugo Riemann, the minor mode is considered the inverse of the major mode, an upside
down major scale based on (theoretical) undertones rather than (actual) overtones (harmonics).
Riemann again.
Brian 08.15.2005
Just as a thought:
The abyss is also a Kabbalistic term regarding the separation between the top 3 sephirot and the rest of the tree of life. It is
the separation between the potential of the universe and our thoughts. The Abyss represents the gap between thought and action.
Imagine if you acted out every single thought that appeared in your mind or if every possibility that exists in the world suddenly
became reality. That is what life would be like without the abyss. We need... and the universe requires nothingness.
These guys are into Kabbalah, so i figured, why not put it out there?
Anonymous Coward 10.17.2005
There are a number of ways to interpret "major mode" and "minor mode", but my first thought was 'emacs', where major and
minor modes are used to customize behaviour. Now take into account that, apart from old vi(1)-hating UNIX geeks like myself, emacs
is mostly used by university students, teachers and researchers..
barmaid 08.10.2006
Looks like there is something that a number of people have slid up next to and then backed away. I think it is
because we don't want to deal with the reality of this mess. Over and over again comes up medicine and pharmacy and
disposing of medical wastes and then somebody else translates the stuff about Sejanus doing people in one at at time
and on and on. But nobody draws the conclusion so I will. They are offing their opponents. Very specific opponents
and these tell who catches the shit. Just look at all these quotations dealing with the CIA and rat-lines and
operatives and yet we don't want to say it. No, they aren't CIA in my opinion but they are sure hell doing people in
and proud of it. With all the smoke and mirrors they are positive that they will appear to be harmless. We are too
chicken to say it and the webmaster knows I'm writing this from a very public computer that I don't think they can
track. If you never hear from me again I guess they could track even this.
Brian 11.23.2007
I dont know if this helps or not, but the whole sphere is a magic sphere, all of
the 8 number rings add up to 108 and all numbers on opposite "poles" add up to 27.
Lewis Winthorpe 05.19.2008
And when the hour came, he reclined at table, and the apostles with
him. And he said to them, "I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with
you before I suffer. For I tell you I will not eat it until it is fulfilled in
the kingdom of God." And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he said,
"Take this, and divide it among yourselves. For I tell you that from now on I
will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes." And he
took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them,
saying, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me."
And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup that is poured out
for you is the new covenant in my blood. St. Luke 22:14-20
Stephan 05/17/2014
"In der Apokalypse ist die textgeschichtliche und textkritische Situation völlig von der in den übrigen Schriften des Neuen Testaments verschieden."
translation:
"In the apocalypse, the text-historical and text-critical situation is absolutely different compared with the other writings in the new testament."
sulky
no name given 02/02/2018
Comments: The Truth is, as it were, the most elaborate of fiction.
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